Blood Car
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007![]()
Director Alex Orr said, “If you’re making something for anybody, you’re making nothing for nobody.” Though his feature Blood Car, playing at SF Hole Head tonight at 9:30 (Roxie, 6/7), is uncompromising Orr and his compadres were far from abrasive. They were warm and made it quickly clear that their film was not the work of one depraved lunatic, rather the concerted effort of many who shared the deluded vision.
These guys gave a lot away in our recorded conversation - they’re fearless I tell you - so when spoilers were present in the text, I included a link to the podcast.
Blood Car could easily be confused for a spoof made by slumming Hwd bad boys. The low video quality is quickly overcome because of the film’s brilliant/fucked up, but incredibly well managed premise.
An intensely collaborative event, Blood Car is the accomplishment of a clutch of filmmakers from Atlanta. In hiatus from their “day jobs” making commercials, Alex Orr (director/writer/producer), Adam Pinney (DP/editor/writer/producer), Tony Holley (producer/1st AD), Katie Rowlett (plays Denise) and Mike Brune (plays Archie), came all the way from Georgia just to watch San Jose love up their subversive master stroke. If the value of their journey could be judged against audience response, they could have walked from Atlanta to San Jose and it still would have been worth the trip.
Where did the premise come from?
Alex Orr: We were doing what filmmakers do, working in the film industry, shooting carpet commercials and things that aren’t as much fun and we were complaining about wanting to go out and shoot our first feature. Hugh Braselton (not present), Adam Pinney and myself were riding around in the car, talking about a horror movie and what would be fun or funny and somebody said “a car that runs on blood” and we ran with that. Adam and I wrote the script fairly quickly: our only rule was it needed to be pretty retarded. You know, really silly; push the envelope. We jammed out the script and ran to production as fast as we could.
It’s interesting that when you introduce or describe your film, you never use the words “satire” or “politics.”
AO: Those words don’t make people think they’re about to go laugh.
Adam Pinney: It’s really a movie about a guy who kills people to go have sex with a girl. Overall. And the politics are there as a tongue in cheek thing. To end the movie as ridiculously as we did (spoiler available in the podcast) –it is a joke and that’s the whole point. We made it political at the end and maybe people are thinking “they’re taking this and themselves seriously” but we’re not.
I see what you’re saying but what I thought you guys were going to talk about… how did you describe it? ‘The FBI fuck-tard whose monologue should have been like Ned Beatty’s diatribe from Network?’
AO: You know the blood for oil thing is there and towards the end we come out and say it, but instead of giving you the grand speech about the evil government we like to give more jokes and nonsense.
AP: We don’t want to browbeat people with political purpose, it’s an underlying tone but it doesn’t drive the film at all, the fact that the government is evil -
Mike Brune: Blood drives the film…Heh?! Funny?!
Oh, come on, not just blood: blood and cum. That was the goopiest movie I’ve seen in a while and I’ve seen a lot!
Tony Holley: (sheepishly) Can we say cum?
I think we should be able to.
TH: Cum!
(pause)
AO: And there are some things that need to happen in that sort of movie. The main character needs to be conflicted about whether to keep killing for sex or quit and what better thing to persuade him than a giant wet spot? He should eventually get together with Loraine, the audience should expect the good girl to finally get in there, but for no other reason than to not do what is expected, we (spoiler available in podcast). We all watch a lot of movies. We’re movie geeks so whenever we’d talk about doing something, one of us would say, “No, because they did that in this.” And we’d say, “What else we got?” We didn’t want anyone to watch the movie and feel like, “Here comes A, B, and C and soon they’ll tie up that other thing.” We definitely wanted to keep people on their toes. Originally we wanted the bed to talk, to be like a vagina.
Katie Rowlett: A talking vagina. The set guy said he could do it.
AO: We were gonna do it with the computer but someone said it was a little too Cronenberg. It was disgusting! Wonderful!
You just referenced your influences and before I asked about your respective influences –
AP: You said Tokaishi Miike, Scorcese
AO: Scorcese, Allen.
Hitchcock…the shower bit.
AP: I’m obsessed with that scene.
AO: He is! Adam Pinney likes to kill women and be in a bathroom.
AP: I’ve killed three women in bathrooms, or injured them greatly. In my three films, I’ve made two short films: a girl dies in a bathroom in one of them and in another she dry heaves and is a wreck, and in this one she (spoiler available in the podcast).
AO: He loves bathrooms, how they’re small and difficult.
You talked about pushing the envelope.
TH: There’s no other way to go for us.
The way of violence on children?
TH: Yeah. But they’re all jokes and people laugh at them because they don’t expect it to go that far. And I know that’s really going to hinder us when we go out for –
MB: -Lots of filmmakers want to go for that but they have this block that says they can’t get this scene by this audience. So they never even consider the possibility past that first spark. Whereas we just said, “Fuck it.”
AO: If you’re making something for anybody, you’re making nothing for nobody.
AP: It’s catching on now. Several people have said it’s very Borat-esque just because in a movie like that they take jokes just a little too far. Based on the response it works and I hope more people do stuff like that. Every joke that was going too far people were shocked but they were clapping, they were like “Yes, you did this!”
AO: We’re not all like this. We make other films, but we don’t want to pride ourselves on something someone already did – no one wants to make the next Karate Kid.
Exceptional choice of films to mimic!
TH: Are you kidding? Get that out of my face! (Under breath) Three?!